Louisa Jane Smith is host of The RE Podcast (religious education). A Sentientism conversation about “what’s real?” and “who matters?”

Louisa Jane Smith is host of The RE Podcast (religious education). A Sentientism conversation about “what’s real?” and “who matters?”
In this Sentientist Conversation I talk with animal sanctuary founder and activist Cat Besch about “What’s Real?” and “What Matters?”