Adam is a Lecturer in Environmental Science at Deakin University. A Sentientist conversation about what’s real, who matters and how to make a better world.
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Adam is a Lecturer in Environmental Science at Deakin University. A Sentientist conversation about what’s real, who matters and how to make a better world.
Macken is a writer & science educator. He hosts a weekly podcast about animals, Species, recommended by both Apple & the BBC’s Wildlife magazine. A Sentientist conversation.
In this Sentientist Conversation I talk with animal sanctuary founder and activist Cat Besch about “What’s Real?” and “What Matters?”