A Sentientist conversation about “what’s real?” and “what matters?” with Ingrid Newkirk, founder & president of PETA.

A Sentientist conversation about “what’s real?” and “what matters?” with Ingrid Newkirk, founder & president of PETA.
Jane is a TV broadcaster, author, journalist & now CEO of the animal rights non-profit Jane Unchained. She has written four books, two of which were NY Times bestsellers.
Marc is professor emeritus of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology at the University of Colorado, Boulder. He has published 31 books, won many awards for his research on animal behavior, animal emotions, compassionate conservation, & animal protection, has worked closely with Jane Goodall, & is a former Guggenheim Fellow.