Annika van den Born from Future Based and I discuss how naturalism and sentiocentrism come together in Sentientism. We discuss how “higher power” systems of thinking tend to warp compassionate ethics. We talk about the risks of environmental movements extending their moral circles too far (biocentrism, ecocentrism or holism) while often ignoring sentient non-human animals. We also talk about what a Sentientist utopia might look and how we might move towards it.